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pprpaso

Fancy has a new home! We fell in love with this beauty at the Celebration show in N. Augusta, SC. She just has the most wonderful loving disposition and won;t let you pass her without calling you over to scratch her head!

Fancy has now joined our herd of Ppr mares and hopefully will be in foal to our Frosty in the next few months. Here is a link to her pedigree http://www.tesiopower.com/pf/sixgen.aspx?hID=10344

Here is a picture I took of her this AM here in PA.....

Thanks Ramon for making it possible for Fancy to come live on our farm!

Kerry W · Site Admin

Pretty mare! Looks like she's settling in very well. Congratulations! Very Happy

pprpaso

Thank you! Yep she has settled in already....poor thing will have to adjust again in a month or so when we got to our Fl house. She came from Sc so she won't have any problems with the heat!

My other 3 Pasos went to Fl after the show since we were already in SC. Didn't have the right paperwork to get Fancy into FL.....the boarder patrol is pretty strict on paperwork for horses going into the state. So she came back to PA with us and is hanging out with my 23 year old Appy and my pony. She is very easy going and a joy to have around! Very Happy

This is what Fancy will wake up to in FL........we are on a private lake and it makes a beautiful backdrop.

caliber · Site Admin

Congratulations! what a wonderful mare do I see... any chance of of posting the bottom part of her pedigree. Not that it will make any difference,but very interested in finding out who they had bred Carabali with.

Excellent bloodlines! EXCELLENT! .............SHE IS A JEWEL!

pprpaso

I don't have a clue as to what her dam's bottom side is. I emailed Joanne Ferrum to see if she has any info on La Selecta's dam. Fancy has a lot of roan in her coat......wonder where that comes from?

Joanne has a drawing of Alicante on her website with a video of him....pretty nice stallion!

Don't know if any of you have seen this.....it was just posted in March of 2008... http://www.arsdelicata.com/pedigrees/a/alicante1973.htm

Joanne is doing a terrific job of gathering info on the ppr horses and having this info is really nice!

caliber · Site Admin

Yes, Joanne have done and is doing the best thing I have seen done in a very long time, bring as much information possible to facilitate all of us with accuracy. AGAIN! GREAT JOB JOANN, you are DINAMITE......

I have always heard only but great things about CARABALI..... and thought I should ask... THE MARE IS STUNNING!

Thanks so much for sharing, and I wish you the best with that MARRIGE! cant wait to see the results.

Ferrum

Thank you for the nice comments and enthusiam Ppr Paso and caliber, they mean alot.

I am happy to announce the database now has over 10,000 entires.

Ppr Paso, Condragulations on your new girl Fancy Free mako, she is a beauty.

You can now also play with potential offspring pedigrees as well and print these out for study.

http://www.arsdelicata.com/cgi-bi...asofino.dbw&submit=Create+Now

Unfortunately, the federation started out as a competition and not really a genealogical registry. So, many mares were not registered ( especially in the beginning ).

still, I am thankful for the info we do have. Selecta's dam is not listed in the federation of in the PFHA stud books. Maybe in the APF old books? I do have some names though (people who might have known the dam). If you are interested in these you can always ask me to send them by e-mailing me in private.

Best Wishes,
Jo-Ann

Kerry W · Site Admin

Neither La Selecta nor Fancy are listed in the APF studbook. Oddly enough, Carabali is listed as being from different parents (unless it's a different Carabali).

Ferrum

Hi kerryW, yeah, it is a little frustrating.
But, I take the mistake to be on the PFHA stud book.
You see Carabali was not registered with them, however they gave him a number ( starting with N) in order to complete some descendant pedigrees most likely.
he was born in 62, and I think the PFHA was founded in 1972?

Anyhow, I have done my best to keep errors out. If you find any just let me know. There is also another Carabali ( not PPR and 2003 I think) that is in the stud book, so that could cause confusion.

I think My info and that of the PFHA stub book are alike for carabali, except that they placed a Duque and Doctrina behind Arco Iris ( strange)

They probably got the copitas mixed up.

Best Wishes,
Jo-Ann

Kerry W · Site Admin

I was going by the Tesio pedigree listed, so please don't think I was questioning your database, Jo Ann. Very Happy

I do realize that the on line databases for PFHA are incorrect on a great many horses.

What is listed in the APF studbook (1975) is that he was foaled 7/20/63; Sire: Fantacia; Dam: Soledad...and is listed as PR, which means he is a puro (according to the studbook). Owned by George LaHood, at time of publishing.

Again, not questioning YOUR database, but pointing out an inconsistency in the APF studbook. Wink

At this point in time, I'm pretty much into the pedigrees for the amusement of it...factual information in the US is too elusive to count on. Laughing

pprpaso

Wow Joanne that is really neat about being able to do the potential offspring on your website! Thanks for posting that!

I did find both Fancy and Carabali on pasoregistry.com.

http://www.pasoregistry.com/db/Tree.asp?ID=79167 (Fancy Free Mako)

http://www.pasoregistry.com/db/Tree.asp?ID=103017 ( Carabali)

In this case I think pasoregistry has the correct info?

Ferrum

Hi PPRpaso, the info looks good for the first two generations, later further back, there are differences between their records and mine.

Beltran was the owner of Arco Iris, and gave Rafael Arbelo some pedigrees
before his death, then Rafael Arbelo shared these with me. The thing was that Arco Iris Dam was not registered and there were MANY copitas, so it looks like they may have tied in a different one as the dam of Arco Iris.

I am still working on the pre ( federation Pre 1940) pedigrees, It is important to note that they registered far fewer horses back then.
But I will say this .... Dulce Sueno is the oldest horse registered born in 1927-26, if Fact no other horse born in that year is registered so it gets hard to compare him to anything else breed in that decade. In fact, the mares he bred while said to be of the best quality, were not registed. Info into them can be found in Gaztambide but there are some mistakes so it has to be done with alot of care.

Ferrum

Kerry I thing it must be another Carabali.
Since the registry was a competition more than genealogical registry back then, many exports had not been registered to compete, but had registered parents.

Soledad it seems was registered and had foals in 62 and 65 but not in 63, so that Carabali could be her 63 foal who was exported and not kept for the competion ring in PR. Smile

BTW, anyone wishing to sell APF stud books, or old magazines, or etc. I am willing to purchase, and will place the info to good use!
Jo-Ann

Paintedhorizon

Congratulations! She's a beaut!

BigJ

Just out of curiosity. Is there a way anyone can get the stud books from the PR registries? It'd be nice to have a few.