"Horns on a horse"

BigJ · "Horns on a horse"

No, this isn't a question about unicorns, sorry.

I've read two passages talking about a trait found between the ears of horses called "horns". In both cases the discussions were about Iberian or Berber horses and how horses with "horns" was a good sign.

Has anyone heard of this term before and if so, what are "horns"?

In the meantime I'll try to find those passages and share them.

britzlove

The Carthusian strain of Andalusians can frequently present a growth just under their forelock, a bone nub. It's high up, not in between their eyes.

I'm a fan of the lines, descending from horses carefully bred in a Monastery. I don't know alot about it, so any reference you could scare up I'd love to read.

It would be real cool if you could find that a paso was once refined with an Andy of that strain, and I bet if you found a paso with a "horn" and you had access to DNA team, you could prove a link. That would be so cool!

Anyway, maybe, if you find a link I'll see what I can find.

Britz

caliber

I was wondering about that too! I have always known of horns around the forelock! but never in between the ears!

Candice please when you find the inforamtion! let us know! it will be my first!!

Thanks!

Saludos!

BigJ

Thanks Britz. I now know what to look for.

Speaking of the Cartujana horses, I posted some information on pasopedigree about a year ago. I copied the post, but will try to find it as well and link it here as I had several cross links to other sources in the posts.

Gaztambide mentions Cartujana horses and attempts to trace a few Puerto Rican Paso Fino families to these original imports.

However, when I look at today's Cartujana horses, I immediately am reminded of the Plebeyo line but more specifically El Classico de Plebeyo in phenotype particularly the top line, head, neck, shoulder alignments, croup structure and mid section.

Another phenotype, very different in appearance, may worth looking at as well--with some exception the dun factor appears with greater frequency in this phenotype. The horses aren't a neat subset as far as bloodlines go--at least as far as I can tell. Whether there is any relationship is far fetched except to say I've observed it now and again. These horse have more Berber appearances.

I'm thinking the gene for the "horn" must be from a very old, pure source. By "pure" I mean with less introduction outside the population that we would recognize as Iberian or Berber.

EDIT: Pasopedigree's forum is not available, so no link! Sad

Fortunately I saved it, so will try to repost it here.

britzlove

BigJ

britzlove

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~eaglelo...20Lodge%20About%20Andalusians.htm

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/carthusian/index.htm

ANd then kind of interesting, but I have thus far failed to find any other reference to horns and early horse ancestors, but here's one paleontoligical reference
http://www.palaeos.com/Vertebrate...ungulata/530.100.html#Hippomorpha

And follow all the links out of this one to trace the origin to present day. Note: when they say thoroughbred, they don't mean the breed we know, they mean it like the origin of our thoroughbred, "thoroughly bred"

http://www.yeguadacartuja.com/yeguada/ingles/flash/index.htm

britzlove

I have cold chills from reading that last page, an art preserved. WHat a great way to wake me up so I can go to work with happiness. Thanks Candice!

BigJ

I can now do my grocery shopping! I have allot to "digest"!

The more I search, the more I learn, the more I appreciate the specialness of these horses!!! I challenge us all to find a horse that has what this breed offers! There is a reason why it has been named PASO FINO!!

caliber

AMEN!

4enduro

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/horses/
this is a moyle horse another horse with horn comes from our mustangs/ likley the aketeke/turkoman type mixed in somewhere or somehow.
our friend and equine photographer has gone to Idaho and bought three of these horses she was only allowed to buy non- producing stock (geldings) the ones she picked did not have horn but she saw some that did.I asked if she had photos and she thinks so.I will ask her next endurance rid if she has any. EnduranceTriple Crown winner John Crandell had a half Moyle half arabian he campaigned a few years ago. did well too.Don't know about horn on it since I have not seen him for a while, but will ask when i see him.Becky Siler is the photgrapher friend of ours.