Anybody know how close it would be possible to this horse? Any living daughters or sons, or grand offspring?
I was searching Ochoa's book for a pic of Pleybeyo yesterday and I just skimmed over him and was instantly interested.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:12 pm
BigJ
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Could you repeat that in English?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:32 pm
Kerry W
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I've got a photo, I'm not sure it's the same one...seems there are a couple of versions of his pedigree. I'm sure there are grandget around, seems like most I've seen were through the mares...but I wasn't really looking for him, but will keep my eyes open now.
If this is the wrong photo, please say so, so we'll all know for sure.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:36 pm
caliber
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Kerry is there a year when that picture was taken?
Sorry, no...but I did notice his dam is spelled "Panderita", not "Pandereta", that makes me wonder...but I was hoping the owner would be a clue to help us indentify the horse.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:12 pm
britzlove
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In English (although, Kerry seems to have got my drift, usually you do!)
Does anyone know, how close it would be possible to breed to this horse: Delerio?
Know of any surviving offspring, or grand get? (meaning I could get withing three generations of him? or 4 or more)
Thats definately not the same horse Kerry, I'll have to bring the book to the office and scan it Monday.
I like that horse just fine, this one was very much my type though.
Oh and Candice, Plebeyo, I was trying to write Plebeyo, the new gelding has his exact face, looks just like him.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:36 pm
Kerry W
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Is it Delirio that is the sire of Monarca (Delirio x La Ligia II)? If so, I've got a photo or two of Monarca. There is quite a bit of that Monarca line here. This Mahoma is (if the pedigrees are accurate) linebred on Monarca, who is Delirio's son.
The reason I ask is because Delirio seems to be a popular name and there were many very good horses named accordingly.
I am trying to find information about the "old" Delirio sire of Delirio who sired Monarca and Pirata with Ligia II. At least I think that is how it goes.
There's other Delirios besides these two.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:42 pm
britzlove
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I guess the only way would be to bring the book from home, and scan it in. I almost think I can remember Don Danilo in mention close to him, and maybe Monarca, but I just remember glancing at the pic before turning the page.
Now it's eating me up..I'll have to look it up as soon as I get home from the bar tonight.
edited to add
**He may very well have been trocha too, I didn't even look, he had similar conf. to many trocha's I've seen** I'll look
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:51 pm
Kerry W
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Yeah, you and me both...going to go get the book out now!
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:53 pm
BigJ
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I absolutely love Monarca's (trocha) phenotype. If I could get that with the paso fino gait, I'd be set for life. It pleases me to no end to see a Monarca son, Don Pepe, not only so prepotent, but residing here in the USA.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:50 pm
Kerry W
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There is also a Delirio II, who was the son of Cerezo, I think...and that Delirio II was the sire of Dandy. There is a photo of him in the book too, with Gustavo E.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:57 am
britzlove
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Well,
Thats him Kerry, by Desvelo and out of Panderita. He's under saddle in this picture in Ochoas book, and the shot makes his head more flattering than the previous posted.
So, now that we know what we are looking for maybe we can find out more about offspring.
Cool.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:11 pm
grif
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Diosa de Prodeco was a daughter of Delirio. Her two best daughters were Pandora de Prodeco and Dorotea de Prodeco. Lori West just posted a filly that she just had from a mare that goes back to Pandora on APF. Pandora had a couple of colts and had some very good fillies. One of them was Grand National fino and bella forma champion Semilla de Corazon Bravo. Rick Meyer had a colt from her and Plebeyo that was supposed to be good but he had some health problems so did not show. Semilla was owned by Stan Goldman last that I knew but he may have sold her by now. Stan had problems getting her in foal and never got anything to speak of from her. Semilla was probably the best horse I have ever ridden. And her mother Pandora was not far behind. Dorotea had a couple of pretty good colts. You could talk to Charlie and Milda Minter. They may have a colt from her still named Diamante de Dulce. She had some very good fillies. And I think they still have mares that go back to her as well. Pandora and Dorotea are both deceased but you could check on there offspring. That is probably about as close as you will get. Or check for other Diosa de Prodeco offspring. She was an amazing producer.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:16 pm
Kerry W
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Okay...new issue. There are two Panderetas listed as his dam
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